First of all, you seem to be quite busy. Youíve got your
web design business [www.domainsunlimited.com],
Malignancy, and, of course, Mortician.
- Yeah, I run Domains Unlimited, which is a web-hosting, e-commerce,
everything - we do a ton of stuff for a lot of big companies. Thatís
my main work; all day, I am a computer nerd. Iíve got [side project
band] Prosthetic Cunt. Iíve got Malignancy for a short while now - Iím
going to do the last seven songs that were written and probably do a
mini-cd for probably Unique Leader or somebody like that. Then, weíve
got Primitive Brutality, which is my solo stuff and that weíre about
to re-press - we might be out. I think we finished the first thousand
of that. Weíre gonna re-press that and Iíll have new stuff out for that
next year. Iíve got my record label also. My record label consumes a
lot more time nowadays. Weíre doing a lot more mail order and Iím looking
to offer really good prices. Iím doing the more you buy, the more you
get a discount.
Whatís the name of your record label?
- Primitive Recordings. That has released Malignancyís 'Ignorance
is Bliss', the Primitive Brutality release, Prosthetic Cuntís 'Fuckiní
your Daughter with a Frozen Vomit Fuck Stick'. weíll see how much
of that gets printed. The end of the year is gonna see a lot of stuff
from Primitive - weíve got over eight releases that weíre gonna be putting
out and a bunch of splits. Weíre releasing the Decomposed - from Spring
Valley, New York - demos; Bile from Hollandís CD; Severed Head from
Maryland CD. Weíve got 'Final Bloodbath', which is a Mortician
release that we just put out. Itís 27 old songs, all re-done with the
current line-up we have now, which is Ron from Malignancy on guitar,
me on drums, Will on bass/vocals, and I did some guitar tracks. Ron
did the studio guitar on his tracks. It was cool. It was a fun session
to do. Everybody always bitches, saying [in whining voice], eeewwww,
a drum machine. So, we gave them what they wanted.
Prob'ly the good thing about having your own business is that you donít
have to be concerned about arguing with your boss to let you leave for
six weeks on the road.
- Itís a misconception. A lot of people think that because you run your
own business and thereís no boss that you have nobody to answer to and
no responsibilities. Actually, it is quite tough. It does hurt my business
every time I leave. This time though, at least. I bring my laptop with
me. I can get on line for emergencies, but there are certain things
that only I can do because Iím the main coder for all our applications.
Things kind of fall apart when Iím gone, but Iím never gone that long
and Iím never that far out of reach. If worse comes to worse, I could
jump on a flight for a day and do what I have to do. The company is
getting to the point now where itís very self-sustaining - our applications
run themselves. Iíve got everything in the house; my T1s are in the
house and itís running smooth. Iím taking a big break - weíre [Mortician]
not gonna do shit for at least four or five months.We did a lot this
year. I did a Malignancy tour also in Europe and then we did Mortician
the end of last year and the beginning of this year, two new albums;
itís been nuts. I need a break to just relax, kick back, and enjoy the
As we talked about a little bit, youíre really supporting two albums
on the tour, 'Final Bloodbath Session' and 'Darkest
Day of Horror'. The latter is all new songs, while the former consists
of 27 tracks re-done with live drums. Tell me about the two albums.
-'Final Bloodbath' was actually two years in the making. It went
through two different line-up changes - drummers in, drummers out, Desmond
in the band, Desmond not in the band, Ron in the band, Rog in the band
it was a big mess. Everybody waited, waited, and waited, and I started
advertising it a million years ago, so everybody was talking about it
and anticipating new Mortician albums. It finally got done at the beginning
of this year, and end of last year we did tracks, half-and-half like
right after the Europe tour. Itís 27 old tracks, everything from the
beginning up to 'Domain of Death'. 'Darkest Day or Horror'
is our new one, which is back with the drum machine. Itís just straight,
old school Mortician - me and Will doing what we do with a drum machine.
We wrote it in a couple days and it came out sick. Itís really good.
I like it a lot. Itís gonna be our last release for Relapse. After that,
weíre gonna start Mortician Records, which will be solely for releasing
Mortician albums until weíre done releasing Mortician albums.
There was a time when you were concerned about making the change from
programmed to live drums. What made you change your mind?
- Weíve always wanted to do it. We went through a few cool drummers.
George [Torres] from Dehumanize was great with us; we wish it worked
out. He had a lot of personal stuff he had to tend to at the end of
the tour, and then he left the tour and went with Skinless and all that.
We had Vic who was in the band for a while, but he had some drug problems
and he went to tend to that. It just seemed like every time we got
a drummer, it flaked out. Then I ended up playing drums about three
years ago - I went from guitar to drums just for the fact that nobody
was around to do it and nobody was responding. People who were responding
were not up to par - they werenít able to do the blasts or anything
like that. Iím having fun doing it, but itís not easy.
How do you just pick up the drums all of a sudden?
- Well, I played with Malignancy before that for a few years. I was
a little bit of a seasoned drummer. I still consider myself more of
a guitar player, although I havenít played guitar much in the last few
years, but Iím still a guitar player at heart. Being a drum programmer
too, I have the drummer mentality. I know what I want to do; I just
canít always do it. Mortician drums are pretty cut and dry. Once I get
the hang of it, I get the hang of it. We said fuck it, letís do it;
letís do it with this line-up. This is the best line-up weíve ever had
thatís been stable. Of course, itís gonna end now because Ronís gonna
be moving on to do full-time Malignancy stuff, and his other and, Dirty
Brown Eye. Weíre gonna be back looking for a drummer because I want
to get back on guitar. I think Iím done with the drums. Iíll maybe do
one more tour if I have to, but Iíd like to get back on guitar.
Did you run into a lot of resistance from certain segments of the metal
community over your use of drum programming?
- Mortician has always been one of those bands where people either.
Youíre gonna lose a whole bunch of people because theyíre like [in whiny
voice], oh I donít like drum machine bands, and they wonít even listen
to it, which is retarded; musicís music. If itís an electronic drummer,
itís the same as putting distortion on your guitar - itís just altering
something different. I like a lot of drum machine bands. Thereís a lot
of cool shit out there. Primitive Brutality is all drum machine. I never
feel that a lack of a drummer should impede the progress of music, of
a band. I tell kids all the time, especially out in areas that are a
little remote where nobody even knows what metal is, get a drum machine,
get a bass, get a guitar, and do it yourself. A lot of kids Iíve inspired
to do that, which is really cool. Iím going to be a doing something
on the web site soon - like a little workshop - to get people into recording
more, and multi-tracking, and learning how to do it. I think it is cool
and Iíve gotten a lot of demos sent to me by kids that are just 14,
15 years old, in their room with a drum machine. It reminds me of me
when I was younger.
Do you feel like pioneers in the metal community based on the way you
-Sort of. Weíre probably the biggest band that has taken a drum machine
to the level that weíre at. There are not many bands that - to put it
bluntly - sell as many albums as we do and use a drum machine.
Youíre making 'Darkest Day of Horror' available at the shows
a couple of months before itís release date. Is that a gift to the fans?
- We didnít have the artwork yet and we wanted to get it out for the
tour. Itís a little something for the fans. Itís just got the black
cover now - itís the limited tour edition. When the real deal comes
out, it will come out in February on Relapse.
Any surprises on 'Darkest Day of Horror 'or is it what one would
expect from Mortician?
- Itís the same old Mortician a little bit of change. Like the same
progression that we had from 'Chainsaw Dismemberment' to 'Domain
of Death', but not much. You still know what youíre gonna get -
weíre not gonna gay out on everybody or be weak. Itís brutal. I
really like it. Personally, itís my favorite.
Are you gonna stay with the horror movie theme? I know that you are
a big science fiction guy.
- Iím personally a sci-fi guy and when I write my own stuff I write
about that. I pretty much do the music and Will does the lyrics, and
itís Willís themes.
Youíve been going at this for over 10 years now. Has each album and
tour been more successful than the previous one?
- Every year is just ridiculously more successful CD sales wise and
tour wise. Itís bigger and better opportunities, better tours. This
tour has been phenomenal. Tonight was kinda light. Georgia was light
too, but other than that itís been killer. Itís really been a kick ass
'Darkest Day of Horror' is your last album on Relapse. You wanted
more control. Whatís doing it yourselves going to give you that Relapse
- We just want to do the artwork ourselves, work at our own schedule,
not have to meet any deadlines, deal with the artist directly, etc.
Weíre all gonna be pumping things out for a few more years and we just
want to do everything our own way. I donít want to disí Relapse or anything
but there has been some lack of communication errors that resulted in
things not being done on time and that kinda shit. We really like those
guys and wouldnít want anything like business to get in the way of friendships
with people over there. Once we leave Relapse, we can only blame ourselves
if we screw anything up.
Will you continue to take Mortician in the same direction, and use vehicles
like Malignancy to explore different types of music?
- Always. Thatís why I have Prosthetic and had Malignancy and still
will do Primitive Brutality. Iíll probably end up with something else
too [laughing]. Now that Iím out of Malignancy, Iíll be looking to do
some drumming. Iíll probably be leaving drums from Mortician, hopefully
soon and get back on guitar. I like to keep busy and creative when it
comes to music. Mortician will always be Mortician. From the very beginning
when I joined, Iíll told Will that Iím never going to change this band.
Iíll write stuff that is Mortician. If I wanna write other shit, Iíll
write other shit, and go on and do something else, and heíll probably
do something else eventually too.
I didnít realize that you also have a distribution company until I saw
the rows of CDs at the merchandise table tonight.
- Yeah, both of us carry a huge distro with us. Between the two us,
weíve probably got at least 700 different titles of CDs, which is great
for coming out to the rural areas because most of these kids know what
they can get at Sam Goody and Tower Records, but theyíve never heard
of half the shit we bring. Itís cool because we trade with guys all
over the world. When we play Europe, both of us go over there with hundreds
of CDs, trade, and bring them back. We really open up a lot of music
to a lot of kids, which is what itís all about.
If you had it to do it all over again, would you change anything?
- Probably not. I like the way weíve done it. We were kinda half-assed
at the beginning because we never took it too seriously, which was cool.
I never wanted to make it a business. I have my own business and I donít
need another business headache. We still try to keep it fun, but now
itís a hell of a lot more organized and thereís more money now to do
things right, more hotels, proper vehicles, etc. When youíre struggling
and youíre young guys in the van and youíre making piss every night.
I mean, we did that for years and years, but eventually you get a little
bit more people listening to ya. I like the way we did it. I think the
way we did it is very natural. Itís how most bands should be. A lot
of bands that go from one day nobody to one-day success, look at Ďem
now. Half of Ďem become heroin addicts, drop dead, donít know how to
handle the money. Not that weíre making millions or anything like that,
but if we ever did, thereís no fuckiní way that it would ever go to
our heads. Weíve been too long on the street with the people for that.
MARTYR OF NOWADAYS - Autumn 02
-Demo #1 (89)
-Mortal Massacre (Mini - 93)
-House by the Cemetary (Mini - 95)
-Hacked up for Barbecue (96)
-Zombie Apocalypse (Mini - 98)
-Chainsaw Dismemberment (99)
-Domain of Death (2001)
-Final Bloodbath Session (2002)
-Darkest Day of Horror (2003)